SWAPD Seller Issues — Real Talk

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Before I start I’d like to add this disclaimer—These are simply my personal observations and I’m posting them here to start a dialogue with other users, not to rile any feathers or start a hostile debate.

I’ve noticed two major changes on SWAPD over the past year.

  1. The gradual increase in prices on properties and services to the point that most items are overvalued.

Now, I believe in capitalism, but I also believe in smart business and here are my personal thoughts.

Social Media Properties— There is fairly standard pricing for pages based on follower count, country and engagement rates. If you’re going to overprice yours, show proof of earnings and monetization. Without monetization, verification or something that really sets the account apart, it’s not special and has no more value than any other similar property.

Websites— if it’s not monetized or has verifiable traffic, it has no real value. Stop trying to sell starter sites for more than it cost to build the site on the Wordpress template you used ($200 max).

Services— Quality affordable services will make you much more than an overpriced service. You may only sell a PR service priced at 4K a few times a year, but that same service at 1,500 may sell several times a week. Stop being greedy and provide real value.

  1. There are so many PR services here that come with large price tags on sites that no one has ever heard of— These come with many claims and people are purchasing them in hopes of verification, but the end result is a poorly written article slopped together and thrown up on a random site that doesn’t meet verification requirements.

If you’re selling PR and charging large amounts Do the following —

first, label your publications as either just PR or good for verification and stand by those verification claims with a guarantee—if you can’t do that then stop charging verification worthy prices.

Second— at least take the time to write a good article or price you’re articles accordingly. I charged $250 for a standard Medium article and spent several hours on each to ensure I provided a quality product to my customers. In edition I gave each customer the chance to review and would provide as many edit as needed to give them exactly what they wanted.

Again, these are just my opinions, but I’d like to hear the thoughts and comments of others.

Please no hostility and no mentioning of specific sellers. This is how we grow and get better as both buyers and sellers.

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I am currently on vacation so I will keep this brief, I will respond in detail when I get back (6th). I have to disagree to the social media properties part. Some prices went up, yes. I believe that buying a semi-good Instagram account for a fair price is a very difficult task these days. But things like Fanpages dropped in value like a rock. There are a few exceptions, if AdBreaks are enabled and the page is large, it’s still worth a pretty penny. But everything else on FB sells like crap. As far as YouTube or Twitter, I don’t see any major changes in pricing.

As far as services go, oh my lord, you’re right. The prices went through the roof. While for us as a middleman this is good, to the buyer, not so much. However, since people are still buying, the suppliers will only keep their prices high. This is kind of like Apple Inc. Their phones cost more than a high-quality laptop, people still buy them like crazy. They keep driving up their prices and people are still buying, so why stop? From their point of view, it would be crazy.

But, at the same time, I don’t want SWAPD to become a place for overpriced things. I really want to keep strict tabs on all categories and remove listings who take advantage of buyers. For example, someone selling a crappy, (Fiverr like) 50 USD press-release package for 2000 USD. We need to squash things like that and burn it with fire. This is one of our goals for 2020, and this is why we will start looking for moderators who can spot things like this.

Moving this to spotlight discussions.

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Capitalism is must for evolution, but at the same time going far extreme capitalistic in approach and quoting ’ this is my price you better burry all ur money under it ’ is some bat ■■■■ crazy level attitude.

Too much of Anything is good for nothing…!

Personally got fed up with some services here which asked way too much than its worth calling out for it rarity.

I vouch for u…!!

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I agree with most of this. As I mentioned before then all websites listed should have google analytics attached or they shouldn’t be allowed to sell here.

I believe if anyone comes here to sell their website and does not use proper marketplaces for that then this sets off multiple alarms.

Either their numbers and metrics are inflated or there are some other shenanigans going on. OR their listings are completely legit and they just try to get more than their site is worth - in which case they should have GA data access per request.

Starter sites - nothing wrong selling them here.

Sites that bring in 100 $ per month, fits perfectly fine as well.

Then comes a “guy” with a site that has made 50,000 $ per year or more and tries to pass that site here - Really ? What are the odds - Sounds to me almost same as winning with Powerball. This just does not happen :sweat_smile:

That From all of the different website flipping sites that rank page 1 on most commonly searched terms “sell online businesses” etc you found Swapd that does not focus on this market. Come on :sweat_smile:

Or any other ridiculous reason why they dont qualify selling there like Empire Flippers - Sure that happens, but there are now sites like Motion Invest that will buy your site instantly for x 25 monthly revenue. And many other proper sites that will do their due diligence and just buy it off from you.

This is just bulls*it and when someone lists these sites here we pretend like we dont know what’s going on.

Get your paperwork ready or take a hike - that should be the spirit. :sweat_smile:

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Em…as far as i can tell there very few sites selling here so i don’t get it. Anyways i am more concern about those sharing shares and prices for instagram. I don’t know much about social media but i believe Instagram is the easiest social platform to gain new followers but somehow they are very expensive.

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Social Media Properties— There is fairly standard pricing for pages based on follower count, country and engagement rates. If you’re going to overprice yours, show proof of earnings and monetization. Without monetization, verification or something that really sets the account apart, it’s not special and has no more value than any other similar property.

I’m not sure I agree with this. if people sell a property they can set the price as they like. if buyers see this as overpriced - they can just ignore it and move on. if no one will purchase from the sellers that overprice their properties, they’ll eventually decrease their prices until someone does purchase.

If a lot of people overprice their properties and stick to the price, it probably means that they sold similar properties for the same price and are waiting for the right "end-user"

Websites— if it’s not monetized or has verifiable traffic, it has no real value. Stop trying to sell starter sites for more than it cost to build the site on the Wordpress template you used ($200 max).

I actually didn’t see anyone trying to sell a starter site here for a lot of money, so I don’t think it’s a problem, If I’m mistaken - I’m sorry and I agree with you on this one. starter sites shouldn’t cost more than $200 and you can also see it on Flippa where starter sites sell for like $30-250

Services— Quality affordable services will make you much more than an overpriced service. You may only sell a PR service priced at 4K a few times a year, but that same service at 1,500 may sell several times a week. Stop being greedy and provide real value.

I don’t agree with this point as well. it’s all about supply & demand. there are only a few members that can actually deliver, which means they control the market price, so they can price it as they wish. as long as there are buyers, they are going to keep the price the same or even increase it, which is normal. if there were a lot of members that can deliver, you’d see the price decreasing and decreasing. but as long as there is a lot of demand for those services, and the number of sellers stays the same, you won’t see the price decreasing, and again, it’s normal.

  1. There are so many PR services here that come with large price tags on sites that no one has ever heard of— These come with many claims and people are purchasing them in hopes of verification, but the end result is a poorly written article slopped together and thrown up on a random site that doesn’t meet verification requirements.

All sellers have to be transparent and not lie to their potential customers. if someone guarantees a high quality article in high authority websites, they need to deliver, and if they won’t, @SWAPD will probably delete the sales topic.

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My only problem is with sellers who try to sell dead instagrams for a lot just because it has a huge follower number. Thats like having a 12inch d*ck that you cant get it up. Pointless. :laughing:

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From what I’ve seen $1,000 per 10k followers during giveaways is kind of the norm, but I don’t have tons of experience with it either.

I’ve never really checked into or purchased a single share as I’ve never seen anyone get spectator results unless you’re doing a a more consistent plan with numerous shares over a period of time.

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:joy: love this!

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I don’t disagree with any of your points here @RandyMarsh :ok_hand:

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Do you guys think with IG hiding likes that prices are going to change?

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I don’t think so because I don’t see any difference for accounts owners, as they can see their own engagement.

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They did this to eat into the influencer marketing market… as it just so happened they have now launch their own influencer marketing platform within creator studio where you will see how many likes etc a campaign etc… how very convenient for them…

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Quality of a service or property will always have demand and those who can deliver will always ask for higher sums.
Those with supply will always control the prices.
Survival of the fittest, who can pay can have premium properties and services.
selling with lower prices will get you more sales but looking it in the long run that service and property will lose its value and within a month or 2 buyers will demand to lower the prices even more. So why risk the value and premium nature of a property/service just to make quick money?

Buyer must know what he/she is buying if they don’t know what they are buying they will always lose their money by buying crap properties/services.
i think bashing sellers for high prices, Buyers should be educated or buyer must acquire the knowledge needed.

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